Well Reverend Jackson thank you so much for the opportunity to talk to you now he said I want to begin by looking at your historic run for office when you laid claim to the Democratic nomination and how did it pave the way for Barack Obama presidency would be that presumptuous but suffice it to say in some point someone starts and run just to run and if I had not run in my cabinet with set people up right to disappoint them I ran and they did for I learned that when there's a surrogate I learned the campaign and I was a New Hampshire not just in the southern states we were told you shouldn't I was to white all of the good the fund you can't be valid if you don't take it all on somebody we found out the family farmer and lost the farm to the corporate farmer and the blackness of the record lost a job to corporations going abroad and more common than they realize is an economic class issue class issue and so we began the hook up the family farm and the unemployed urban worker and a coalition was born so we got double digits and with that was a big deal we actually beat gooing get thought that was a big deal but I mean the whites could he have voices beyond the limits of race that's significant You mention that because you know run just run away to use overhead lines and people to this day refer to that era as one of the watershed moments in American politics in Democratic politics did you feel that you were on the Trash folder for a major change when you look back do you feel it was a great move for you to have made that kind of a bold run and to really democratize process I don't know how big the moment was in the moment because I was running as an organizer in the political season the primaries the candidates to determine the agenda and the press we're going to get our civil rights issues raised we'll talk about urban policy and free Mandela and join the choir who could be hurt by running and running to the press. Since And so by 88 there was an appreciation of what we brought to the conversation I remember one night we were told just you know the moral right we're going to move beyond all these debates have been discussed foreign policy so if you don't want to come you'll have to go from there you go from promise and I'll just you want to understand I salute as I'm anxious to depart from policy to come a sickness of what you know about foreign policy so we can go on the phone policy signals from Paul this is hopes. One day I was in the gym with then something broke Obama he said you know I was a Colombian to debate the hot Monday on some of the B. and I said this can happen as soon as I'm up and he said this is going to happen and someone sees for the next generation was ultimate mission and we didn't have the money to compete at the highest level of fund raising my we bring on the cultural walls and left and not come down he said I said as a student said this can happen and I watched him walk across the essays that night as the want to and T. has slowed down my face it happened. So often you plant seeds The grew trees in the WHO's will never see saw you see you planted grew a tree and I said I want to say watching the winter that was a big deal Bernie Sanders made it clear on the campaign trail to let us know Senator Bernie Sanders that he supported you Ron in the eighty's for president and he built largely his populism on your campaign of the 84 and so forth he brought a lot of people around this movement a sign this movement around Democratic politics what happens to that movement now moving forward as a demand account of political accountability those who are in that movement. Must belong this as well as if they let the inspiration evaporate trend in the people now it was just a phase. They must not allow themselves about the vote for you personally to fulfill the mission for when I read something call one a to call to become a delegate to the get 35 percent of the vote which is 7 high reduced it down to 15 and we move from one of the goal to proportionality I mean you get 50 percent I get for that business or close races you see a lot of one big tent we call it the Jackson rule that well I don't but that doesn't. Help. You get your share Thank you Reverend. Wright The Reverend Jesse Jackson founder and president of the Rainbow Push Coalition America's premier civil rights leader and bankroll a Thompson.