This is Ford School Currents with Professor Barry Rabe. Professor, we've seen a lot of climate events in the news, record heat in the West, active hurricane season in the South. Record heat in Europe. On one side, in the US, you have calls for urgent action, while others say that this amounts to climate alarmism. Isn't acknowledging climate change the first step in being able to tackle the issue? There is a real sense of transition and change in part because of these very, very high profile visible events, which do not affect any part of the country identically, it differs from place to place, but begins to add up and enter the public imagination. Within the last year, we've begun to see some non trivial changes in public opinion about how Americans view this issue. When we're talking about climate change, we're also looking at the notion of climate justice, which ties environmental policy to human rights and wider equity issues. Are social movements influencing these domestic or international development policies as they relate to the environment? I do think in the United States over this last year or two, we have begun to see some integration and thinking about this and not looking just at what's the quickest way we can reduce greenhouse gas emissions, important though that is, but then think about the distributional justice or equity, whether that's a carbon pricing system, a tax, where revenue might be allocated or reallocated to different kinds of communities. So in that realm of social policy and how it's responding to climate change, what are the differences between the United States and for example, the European Union and how they're approaching it? This is such an interesting comparison because it seemed 25 years ago that it was the United States who would really lead the world on this issue. The sad irony is that early American interest in this has not been sustained through policy, but we are, as I noted earlier, seeing some significant signs of major policies and exhibit A right now across the entire world would probably be the member states of the European Union. So Europe really is emerging as a truly a global leader, but that's also being matched in other places around the world, including some nations of Asia. In North America, that would certainly include Canada, but one of the laggards in this remains the United States and that is truly to be seen at this movement and surge of interest in global warming in the United States and concern about these very kinds of events that we were discussing actually can translate politically into policies that can be adopted and then to be implemented over time. Professor Barry Rabe, thank you very much. Thank you very much. Take care.