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Justin Wolfers, ABC Australia: If a deal isn't reached, a lot of people on Wall Street are warning of very severe circumstances, a financial crisis, which would trigger a recession, which would lead to widespread joblessness. I want to be more optimistic than that, but it's more optimistic because it's more uncertain."